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Guest post: Helping clients better understand and engage in social media

Made Social on 03 August 2010 | View Comments

In advance of Social Collective, we have been inviting select people to guest blog and join the SoCol debate, hopefully offering a fresh point of view. We have been asking a range of people to contribute, including those working in social, client side, techies, journos etc with a view of building a wider picture. Any questions raised during this process will be addressed during a panel at SoCol in September.

The latest in the series is from Jonny Stark, aka @jonnystark, THE social media monkey.

Helping clients better understand and engage in social media. It’s a lifelong commitment.
By Jonny Stark

So, you’ve been listening to some of the great and the good of the social media industry talk you through the steps of demonstrating to your clients why they should consider social media, generally answering the question of what it all means to get them going and developing their social media strategy. Push the button and off we go.

But it doesn’t end there.

Genuinely engaging and rewarding social communications don’t happen instantaneously. BT, Dell and Sony are three brands often held up for their efforts in social media. Sure they make mistakes along the way. But I would challenge anyone to find any organisation engaging perfectly! The point is, they’ve taken time to get there. From restructuring and aligning business units, to investing company time and allocating resource.

Any social communications consultant worth his or her salt needs to keep revisiting the strategy on a regular basis (at the very least every six months). Look at what has worked and what hasn’t, as well as feeding in the latest trends, technologies and platforms (filtering them for audience fit first).

Are your audiences bored of YouTube videos being pumped out at them and have they all abandoned social bookmarking? If so, creating yet another ‘compelling’ video is somewhat futile, as is creating page after page in Delicious. There are tools out there that can help you with this, like UM’s Wave research (which is due for an update).

And don’t forget to look at your client’s organisation as well. Have there been major shifts in their internal structure or brand positioning? These have implications for your social communications strategy as it needs to be based on strong internal foundations and also ring true (that word authenticity) for the brand.

We’re consultants. Our clients pay us because they often don’t have the time to devote to keeping up with everything that’s going on or simply lack experience. That includes what the latest thinking is across the industry and what their competitors are up to, as well as other divisions within their own company. Often, they aren’t necessarily aware of what is happening in the furthest outreaches of their organisation and the potential this has to impact on their own activity.
We are their eyes and ears inside and outside their company.

It’s very easy to churn out the same old guff week after week for clients – from strategy to tactics (as this little site reminds us). Another infographic just because we can? No problem. But that’s not anywhere near genuine consultancy. And social communications will continue to get a lot of stick (just visit this well known example to remind yourself of what I’m talking about).

This blog and the Social Collective conference are about best practice and improving understanding across the industry. Which means you need to look at your client relationship long term.

It’s easy to have an expensive one night stand. But much more rewarding all round to build something lasting.

About Jonny Stark

Jonny heads up the social media team at 3 Monkeys Communications, both working alongside account teams to weave social media into their campaigns and advising clients directly on how best to integrate social media into their business.

This varies from setting up specialist cross discipline teams, running research and audits, developing procedures for handling crises, creating processes to deal with customer queries and looking at how the in-house marketing and PR teams can harness social media as part of their on-going work.

Not just a social media theorist, Jonny has delivered successful, award-winning digital PR and social media campaigns for brands such as Sony and the BBC. This has given him experience of what does work and, perhaps more importantly, what doesn’t.

At 3 Monkeys he currently works with Microsoft UK, Calor, THUS Group and Demon Internet, the Office of Fair Trading, Sharp and T.G.I Friday’s.

View other posts in our guest blog series:

The social media strategy series: Getting Buy In by Gemma Went

The tall and the long of it by John V Willshire

Social Media in the 21st Century – Deja Vu all over again by Paul Smith

The Secrets of Pitching Social Media by Paul Sutton

The social media strategy series: Is social media right for your business? by Gemma Went

Talk is cheap by Peter Bouvier

Show social or show business by Chris Hall

Back to the future… by Adam Vincenzini

Managing Client Expectation in Search by Chris Hyland

Get Excited And Make Things by Stuart Witts


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  • johnbottom

    Jonny – you're dead right. I'd like to point out though that this 'should' happen fairly organically if things are set up properly in the first place.
    Whilst I accept your points that we, as consultants, have a job to keep up to speed with what's happening out there, one of the characteristics of a true social media brand is that their people are also out there doing it. In a perfect world [which, admittedly, we don't have], employees should be enabled to participate on behalf of the company. Therefore, as conversations evolve, as favourite online destinations come and go, they should also be able to see this and act accordingly. At the same time, if they are engaging with each other, everyone in the organisation should be aware of the changing landscape.
    In my view, the role of the consultant should focus on two things: helping to channel this feedback to the strategy-makers, but also making sure as many people as possible are involved in the first place, which would make the job of staying up to date rather more manageable. We might even learn something.
    Thought-provoking post Jonny – thanks
    John

  • http://www.volume.co.uk Katie Colbourne

    Hi Jonny – absolutely correct. In my eyes there shouldn't really be such a thing as a 'campaign' in social media as social media is for the long run. I can't count how many times I've heard the phrase 'social media is a marathon not a sprint' in fact if I had a £1 for everytime I heard that I wouldn't be writing this blog comment – but it is true, it does take time and it is ongoing. Take a look at the Jimmy Choo catchachoo twitter strategy – what many people don't know is that before they launched that particular strategy they spent 6 months building an online community.

    However I do disagree with your point re revisiting the strategy every six months – social media is real-time and therefore things can change in real-time and think this should be much more regular. We are constantly monitoring and revisit the initial strategy and messaging at least once a month and for a lot of our clients every couple weeks as things can change in a flick of the ‘tweet’ button as we all know so well…

    Great post though and looking forward to reading the next one.

    Katie Colbourne
    Head of Social Marketing & Strategy, Volume
    http://www.volume.co.uk
    http://www.twitter.com/katiecolbourne

  • http://tribalboogie.blogspot.com/ Paul Sutton

    Excellent post, Jonny. There is (and possibly will remain for some time) an expectation on the part of the client that great things will happen within a month of launching a Facebook page; that Twitter will transform their business; that people will come flocking. It's up to us guys to manage those expectations and press home that social media marketing is not a short-term fix but a long-term strategic decision.

    But it's not easy – no matter how many times you say this to some and how many times they nod in agreement and understanding, they still expect the world in double-quick time. I don't actually think BT, Dell & Sony are good examples for us as people expect the same success.

    Still, s'a'laugh innit?!

    Paul
    BOTTLE PR
    http://www.twitter.com/thepaulsutton

  • felixhemsley

    Great post, Jonny. I think there are two very strong sides to your post:

    1 – It's down to us in what we do to ensure that the solutions we provide, are indeed solutions and that they meet expectations on a business case and are not solely executed because they are the most common or best known practices…

    2 – We should also be ensuring that if new technologies are available to better meet the requirements, especially in an ever changing environment, then we take the time to inform our clients and peers of these changes and opportunities, so they can be adopted and driven forward to meet the goals and objectives for the client.

    It's becoming increasingly apparent to me that clients are aware of social media, but this in no way illustrates that they are understanding of it. This often acts as a precursor the generic conversations around engagement, partnering and driving a base level of discussion, but this is of course only generic to those of us who live and breath this every day… Working in the B2B environment, the biggest question I get asked is how long will it take to realise sales through these channels, and the education on this remains my biggest challenge both practically and theoretically. Social media acts on so many levels and trasitions between so many traditional media outlets that the education required is expansive…

    Felix
    Social Collective Co-Organiser & Social Media Marketeer
    http://www.twitter.com/felixhemsley

  • jfourgeaud

    Definitely a good post, with some good remarks.

    As for every “new” technology/process/methodology, companies tend to focus it on one person, one team.
    This is inherent to the way companies HR policies work.
    It is easier to hire a social media dude, who will fill us in on what's going on and get things going, rather than take the time to understand what social media is about, and realize that it's not a guy to tweet that a company need, but a person to help them reorganize their ways of working.
    We spoke about that a lot during the last We Are Likeminds (http://www.wearelikeminds.com) conference and the likes of Olivier Blanchard (http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com/) and Chris Brogan (http://www.chrisbrogan.com/) kept on insisting that it's only by integrating social media as part of everyone's daily work, that companies will get the best return on investment.

    Dell and BT have definitely followed that model.

    I also agree with Katie, Social Media is organic, producing sentiment that changes every seconds about brands. Strategies need to evolve as fast as the environment.

    Thanks for the post!

  • Jonny Stark

    Hi John -

    Thanks for taking the time to comment – I'd agree; my main thinking behind this was that the industry as a whole (at least based on my observations) are often all too willing to sit back and complain about clients without doing anything about it to help them along the way.

    Clients are never going to improve unless we put a little effort in… and maybe we will get to that social nirvana!

    I look forward to meeting you at the event (hopefully!).

    Jonny

  • Jonny Stark

    Hi Katie -

    Thanks for taking the trouble to post and good point re Jimmy Choo.

    I did qualify my six months with 'at the very least' so I don't think we need to disagree! But many (again based on my observation) don't even get this far so it would be at least a start…

    It comes down to making your strategy bespoke to the client, and how often you revisit depends on how dynamic their audiences and industry are etc. etc. There are multiple variables but it all boils down to not just sitting back post kick off and not putting any further brain power in.

    I hope that Social Collective let me post again, as it's great to have such positive feedback (nudge to Beth ;)

    Jonny Stark

  • Jonny Stark

    Hi Paul,

    I have to admit I use Sony as an example as I was fortunate enough to have worked on it ;)

    I think people are too quick to throw up tactical elements and talk around them, without explaining just how much went in to getting to that point (as Katie points out below re Jimmy Choo).

    Thanks for taking the trouble to post and hope to meet you in the real world one day!

    Jonny Stark

  • Jonny Stark

    Hi Felix -

    I think you've just started a post of your own right there! One I would very much like to read…

    Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and congrats on Social Collective – looking forward to it!

    Jonny Stark

  • http://www.volume.co.uk Katie Colbourne

    yes, looking forward to reading more from you! thanks

  • Jonny Stark

    Thanks Julien for sharing your thoughts – I've posted back to Katie so won't repeat myself here, but will have to get along to We Are Likeminds next time…

    And thank you for the kind words!

    Jonny Stark

  • felixhemsley

    Thanks for getting back to us all, Jonny, means a lot to have attention like that to commenters in my opinion. I've written in the moleskin to build that post, may be a task for tonight…but no promises.

    I'm sure I can give Beth a nudge, too ;)

  • http://twitter.com/Beth_Carroll Beth_Carroll

    Hey Jonny

    We would love to have you post again. Your insight is always welcome. Stimulated some great discussions!

    B

  • http://twitter.com/Beth_Carroll Beth_Carroll

    Go on Fe. Time to bust out your creative juices…

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  • http://twitter.com/AndrewJDavison Andrew

    I know I'm late to this debate but I agree with everything you've said here. As an agency I see our role to clients as being a business partner that specialises in helping them interface and ultimately sell to their customers.

    The best way to achieve this will always be different based on the company, the customers and the current circumstances of both. As their partners we need to use our experience and best judgement to decide on a strategy that could work and the tools that will best implement that strategy and then make it happen, or delegate the implementation to the best in the marketplace. Reflection and alternation should be a big part of any strategy worth it's fee.

    To make sure I can do the above to the best of my ability I spend nearly 50% of my time, watching, reading and reacting to blogs and press, speaking to and meeting anybody that will have me in PR, marketing, tech and comms and visting a hell of a lot of different websites and online communities… that way I can be sure I'm fully up to date with everything that is happening and everybody that is doing it and can then offer that insight and experience back to my clients.

    Andrew – Digital Strategy – http://www.zigguratbrands.com
    Follow me: http://bit.ly/AndrewTwitterProfileB

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  • http://scottgould.me/ Scott Gould

    Would love to see you there Jonny. Thanks Jul for spreading the word :-)

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